
<p><strong>Beyond Chatbots: The Second Wave of AI</strong> is a deep-dive podcast about what happens after the “chat” era—when AI stops being a helpful interface and starts becoming real infrastructure.</p><p>Each episode breaks down the second-wave shift: AI agents that execute workflows, multi-agent systems that collaborate like teams, and the hidden realities that decide who wins—reliability in production, verification and trust, compute + energy economics, open-source tradeoffs, and the impact on jobs, education, and power.</p><p>No glossy hype. No “prompt tips.” Just clear, practical conversations that separate demos from durable systems—so builders, founders, and operators can understand what’s coming and position themselves ahead of it.</p><p><strong>If you’re building with AI—or building a business on top of it—this show is your map of the second wave.</strong></p>